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The similarities and connections between the story and rebuild of this E Type and that of Bluebird K7 are striking
Now I was told - and I have no idea whether it's true or not - that the K7 rebuild was the inspiration for this endeavour and another, yet to be unveiled, project with similar aims.
If it's true then I'm immensely proud and if it's not then I'm equally pleased that someone else has seen the light and we're not the only team saying, 'It'll Fix' and 'No Such Word as Can't'.
Either way, it's a cracking job and one less dead machine in the world.

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Renegadenemo wrote:Now I was told - and I have no idea whether it's true or not - that the K7 rebuild was the inspiration for this endeavour and another, yet to be unveiled, project with similar aims.
There is considerable discussion going on at the moment as well as reference to the related topic of rebuilding vehicles that have been responsible for driver deaths. In this case, another driver and three marshals were killed at Montlhery and the wreck remained in the basement of a private museum - the now disbanded Rosso Bianco Collection - in Germany until fairly recently. That Collection had commissioned, and exhibited, a reproduction, albeit not a totally accurate one, from Lynx Engineering at Shoreham. The subject is aired quite frequently with many differing and opposing views expressed by the contributors. Bluebird K7 has often been highlighted in this context.

Not far from me, and having had some restoration work carried out for its Italian owner, is Lotus 72 R2 which is the car in which Jochen Rindt had his fatal accident on the 5th September 1970. Whether or not that rebuild will ever be completed (it has been the subject of huge controversy ever since the Monza accident) is unknown but the whole issue makes many people in the world of historic motorsport very uncomfortable.

The circumstances of K7's rebuild, and the enormous dedication of everyone involved, is truly inspirational and your achievement in reaching the stage you have is a huge credit to you Bill and for all your team. I would say that the awareness that many others - in many different fields - now have of K7's rebuild may be more far reaching than some realise and undoubtedly has the ability to continue not only to inspire others in their endeavours but to influence how other projects may be perceived by a wider audience including the acceptability of restoring such vehicles as the Lindner Nocker E Type.
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If there really is some unwritten code which decrees that any vehicle in which its driver has been killed should be hidden away for ever, then it is a very recent phenomenon.
Motor sport history is filled with examples of vehicles which have been involved in fatal accidents subsequently being repaired and put back into use, either in period or later.
"Babs" springs immediately to mind, but also consider Bentley "Old Number One", Harry Schell's BRP Cooper etc. More recently, the BRM P25 in which Spencer Flack was tragically killed during a historic race has been rebuilt and is racing again.

A tricky and emotive subject I know, but let us bear in mind that the only precedent set by the restoration of the Lindner/Nocker
E-type is in the ability to restore such a badly damaged monocoque whilst retaining substantial originality.
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Not far from me, and having had some restoration work carried out for its Italian owner, is Lotus 72 R2 which is the car in which Jochen Rindt had his fatal accident on the 5th September 1970.
That's the other one I was reliably informed was being tackled because of the K7 build but again I don't know whether that's actually correct.
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Mike Bull wrote:Another example- the Rolls Royce operated Spitfire which crashed in 1992 and killed pilot David Moore is well on it's way to flying again.

Do you have any further info on that mike ? (web link for example?)
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Steve Vizard at Airframe Assemblies has been building lots of bits for it. That's as much as I know.
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Renegadenemo wrote:Steve Vizard at Airframe Assemblies has been building lots of bits for it. That's as much as I know.
Last I knew it was in a hangar at Filton and nearing completion. I'm going there this afternoon so I'll have a look if I have time 8-)

Having originally assumed that this was simply a "data plate" restoration, I am told that it actually incorporates a great deal of the original aircraft, which is pretty incredible if you have ever seen footage of the crash (available on YouTube, I believe).
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Renegadenemo wrote:That's the other one I was reliably informed was being tackled because of the K7 build but again I don't know whether that's actually correct.
It's well known that the wreckage of 72/R2 has been with Simon Hadfield's organisation in rural Leicestershire for a number of years and some work was carried out on the - apparently not that badly damaged - tub. I do not know the reasons for the work not proceeding but I see Simon at Donington and Mallory Park from time to time and have meant to speak with him before now. I have seen some pics of the car in storage but have yet to visit his premises. Simon is one of the leading historic motorsport preparation specialists in the UK and is an acknowledged expert on Lotus.
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I like to see a good car restoration and I've been involved in making up parts for quite a few but the best bit is always when the engine fires up after a rebuild.
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Re. Spitfire RM689:
mtskull wrote: Last I knew it was in a hangar at Filton and nearing completion. I'm going there this afternoon so I'll have a look if I have time.
It was at Filton until recently, certainly within the last 2 years but I am informed that it is now at Sandown, Isle of Wight.
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