Across The Lake

[klingon]

If this is the case, perhaps the BBP should do a bells and whistles super-duper version of it's own with a few extra features etc and sell it too- at least the money would go to a better cause than some opportunist pirate's pocket!

Then you know what would happen Mike?-someone remaining hidden for years would come shooting out of the woodwork at warp 10 and start screaming for royalties!-I was actually trying to find the owner with a view to purchasing the copyright for the movie and doing it right, and got precisely nowhere-think there may be an issue here and without sounding like a conspiracy theorist,and quoting our glorious leader-"best leave well alone" seems to be wise with this one-the BBP ending up in court for royalty breach would have the type 3's whooping and hollering!-unless the actual copyright holder comes forth and donates the copyright to us--

[Mike Bull]

I was speaking hypothetically- clearly the BBP wouldn't touch it with a barge pole for just the reasons you mention.

[Mike Bull]

There was a copy of ATL for sale on ebay today that was supposed to have been sourced from a master film copy, by someone's uncle who worked on the film. However, the seller mentioned that it was shown on Channel 4, and when questioned today, came back with this-

'Yes its the full film, it was shown on channel 4 as a tribute to the days that shook the world, the film was put on to a VHS video format which i have converted to dvd and is a complete film outstanding performance by Anthony Hopkins, dont expect a box set with covers its purely the whole film in its entirety.

If you want to questioning dont bid

Regards

- jayn700'

'Days that Shook The World' was of course something else entirely, and now we have mentions of VHS tapes and a continued insistence re. Channel 4...I think what we had here was someone trying to sell the usual taped-off-the-tv version, possibly obtained from the usual hooky box set that is out there! (Why else mention the other programme's title, and box sets and covers..?)

However, it's all moot as I've just received this in response to further questioning-

Thanks to your comments and the fact you have not bid or shown interest... i have distributed to many of my personal friends who found it a great tribute... you are very wrong with who showed this film as it was only in 2002 that it was shown on Channel 4.... to be honest i hate my listening being questioned by an anarak who has no intention of bidding... spoiling it for others.... the item has now been withdrawn

Anorak! Me!

[MikeT]

Now I watched ATL when it was shown on TV in 88 and that’s the only time I've ever seen it. Apart from the clips with Bluebird going up and down (or perhaps across) the lake the only other scenes I can remember is.................


Richard Nixon asking some chap to pay his taxes then when he wouldn’t he didn’t involve him in the Watergate scandal.
Hannibal Lector chatting up some bird at a garage so he didn't have to pay for his Chianti
Burt (Bert) Munro getting a telling off from Leo for the Christmas runs, sumat about nobody about to tell him when it was safe to return and no offerings to the gods of speed.
Adolf Hitler Telling Leo that ballast at the rear of a previous boat only worked because it was prop driven and a different concept and it was kept in some bunker.
Abraham Van Helsing Being upset with some journalists some times except one who he was sleeping with I think, whilst looking for some bats of some type.

Not even sure if the above is correct it was 23 years ago but non the less I absolutely loved it and was intrigued by this beautiful blue boat. So I've just looked at a clip on you tube pretty much the opening scenes I think where Anthony Campbell drives a bit gets out is cold despite it being spring time when the stuff portrayed happened (I think)then goes to the sun for some sausages.

Now I know its notoriously hard to get an original copy and people have to resort to bootleg editions but I can't even find one of them. So in a vain hope that I can get it another way I tried the file sharing approach no joy there either. So if anyone can help me point me in the right direction it would be wonderful. I think it was released in Australia so is this the route to go down but if so how do I go on with the region code on the DVD.

Now as its a sensitive copyright issue perhaps its safest if all help is sent via PM. Please if anyone can help I'd love to see it again if only for the happy memories of watching it as a child with my family and me old chap telling all about it afterwards.

*EDIT* just wrote all this then found a VHS copy and a DVD rip on flea bay so may go down that route. But my nipper has managed to get my pay pal account froze by selling stuff then lying in bed not bothering to post it for a fortnight. So if they still have copies by time I find a pal to get me one I'll grab it.

[Graham Milne]

I suggest you get yourself the £5 buy it now version, available on ebay as we speak. Quick before Mr Bull manages to get that one withdrawn too.....

"There is a section of copyright law known as ‘The Berne Act.’ It clearly states: “films unreleased in the United Kingdom and United States, including
original version of films altered and/or edited for release therein, are not protected by copyright; thus, they are considered public domain.” This DVD is within the public domain and complies fully with all ebay rulings regarding recordable media.Ebay have checked and verified this."

The above is a quote from his advert for his DVD, he's made it very clear that it's a copy, and obviously ebay have checked everything out to be OK, So what's the problem? Who exactly is he hurting?

If you're waiting to find an original DVD, don't, because it's never been released as such. However, you can buy (again, on ebay) an original VHS copy! While buying the VHS copy, I would suggest you also buy a 'flux capacitor' and transport yourself back to the 80's so you can sit and watch it courtesy of the VHS video player complete with cable-operated remote control......ha ha.

If everyone was to play exactly by the rules and regulations of this world, nothing would ever get done and we'd still be pulling women by their hair around caves. My view.

[Mike Bull]

I suggest you get yourself the £5 buy it now version, available on ebay as we speak. Quick before Mr Bull manages to get that one withdrawn too.....

Hmm. For the record, yesterday's bit of fun with the bloke on ebay had nothing to do with the copyright issue whatsoever- it was to do with the bloke trying to make out that it was a copy derived from an original film print, which it clearly wasn't. To put it another way, a chancer was trying to sell the usual taped-off-the-tv version under false pretences, and I wasn't the only one pursuing the chap throughout yesterday.

It's already a lost cause trying to prevent the usual copies of the film being sold, I wouldn't even go there! However, I think we should maintain the policy we've had on the forum of not flagging up/linking to actual copies for sale, okay?

As for the Bern Act...

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[DamienB]

"There is a section of copyright law known as ‘The Berne Act.’ It clearly states: “films unreleased in the United Kingdom and United States, including
original version of films altered and/or edited for release therein, are not protected by copyright; thus, they are considered public domain.” This DVD is within the public domain and complies fully with all ebay rulings regarding recordable media.Ebay have checked and verified this."

Out and out lies. The copyright holder(s), should they surface, could take the guy to the cleaners.

The above is a quote from his advert for his DVD, he's made it very clear that it's a copy, and obviously ebay have checked everything out to be OK, So what's the problem? Who exactly is he hurting?

eBay check nothing unless its reported for some reason.

[Graham Milne]

Calm down calm down, anyone would think I care about the damned Ebay copy. I was only trying to raise a giggle, I should've known better.

[Mike Bull]

Calm down calm down, anyone would think I care about the damned Ebay copy. I was only trying to raise a giggle, I should've known better.

Steady on old chap- your post just didn't read like it was meant to be humorous, that's all.

[Digitaljunior]

I have a copy that I bought at Bluebird cafe last year - I am I allowed to make a DVD copy as I believe that's all they have done