John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

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Re: John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

Post by malcolm uk » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:46 pm

On weekdays, during the school term time, the cost of visiting the Railton (and elsewhere in the Think Tank Museum) between 3 pm and 5 pm is just £3.00. A full day for 'concessions' is just £9.50. All prices are as December 2016!
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Re: John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

Post by rich1608 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:57 pm

Does anyone know what happened to the plan to recover Crusader from the depths of Loch Ness as described in this article? https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Diver+wh ... 0128413636 This is the only reference I've seen to raising the boat so I guess it never happened in the end.

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Re: John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

Post by Renegadenemo » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:32 am

Yes, he was the fruitcake we had appointed as a BBC approved diver because he used a rebreather like the rest of us ('breathers were frowned upon in those days) who then tried to take over the project, failed completely then told the world he was going to raise Crusader in an act of poorly researched retaliation. Last I heard he was some kind of life-coach. I did like the guy, though, crazy as he was...
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Re: John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

Post by rich1608 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:48 am

He does come across as a rather colourful chap in the Search for Bluebird film. I would be surprised if there's anything left of Crusader given that it's made of wood and has been in much deeper water than Bluebird for much longer. Someone with deep pockets might commission a replica one day, you never know.

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Re: John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

Post by rob565uk » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:17 am

My understanding is that the majority of the wooden hull was burned immediately after the accident, on the orders of John Cobb's Widow. I am guessing that the main wreckage apparently located in the Loch is the remains of the Ghost engine.

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Re: John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

Post by Renegadenemo » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:43 am

I suggested to the crew a few times that we build a replica Crusader as a follow on project it alas, no takers.
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Re: John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

Post by mtskull » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:58 am

Renegadenemo wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:43 am
I suggested to the crew a few times that we build a replica Crusader as a follow on project it alas, no takers.
Shame. This might have made a good starting point:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/De-Havilland ... 1642171693
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Re: John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

Post by Renegadenemo » Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:09 pm

No shortage of engines and l thought working with timber instead of metal would be interesting. I got some of the plans and a bunch of pic's but the idea didn't fly.
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Re: John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

Post by ace_chris » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:06 pm

Renegadenemo wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:43 am
I suggested to the crew a few times that we build a replica Crusader as a follow on project it alas, no takers.
Surely it’s got to be cn7? Or finishing quicksilver

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Re: John Cobb- Crusader/Railton Special

Post by Renegadenemo » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:03 am

Surely it’s got to be cn7? Or finishing quicksilver
We looked at the CN7 thing a long time ago but the trouble there is that it's owned by the Science Museum or some such and displayed at Beaulieu and whereas the NMM crew are all for seeing thngs live and breathe again the museologists mired even the preliminary talks in committees then wet their collective knickers when I said we must, of course, bring the machine to running order, albeit at zero cost or effort to anyone but ourselves. At that point I walked away.

Now, Quicksilver, on the other hand, is very interesting... Having had the pleasure of a couple of years of dialogue with Ken Norris I believed that what he set out to do with his original, four-point design was a real winner. Many years later I inherited a mass of data and drawings that only served to further convince me. It used the same sponsons as K7 (the only part of the boat, Ken told me, that was never modified) and a simple layout that relied on engine thrust from the Spey to bully it onto the surface. After that it was a solid design. Now that I would like to build and prove that Ken had it right a second time.
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