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Post by Renegadenemo » Sat May 02, 2015 6:03 pm

While we're on the topic, the same goes for me. No Face-twatter linked to anything for me. As I say to people...

In the beginning there was the text message, and then came email but now there's a new thing you can get where you only have to press a few numbers and, miracle of miracles, you can actually TALK to the person with whom you'd like to communicate. It's astonishing how far technology has come.
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Post by quicksilver-wsr » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:12 am

I've had a couple of enquiries about the K7 archive of drawings and calcs held by the Science Museum as a result of the discussion on the "Other Record Breakers" thread, and thought it would be a good idea to set out the following for anyone who has a continuing interest.

We created two full sets of K7 drawings and calcs back in the day – by removing, photo-copying and then returning the entire K7 archive held by the Science Museum.

Two sets – one for Ken and one for me – at Ken’s suggestion.

Both sets were held in storage cabinets in the meeting room at Ken’s offices at Bournemouth Airport. This would be 1992/93-time.

However, I never took delivery of my set – partly because I would have struggled for space at my little abode, and partly because … as has been well documented … the Quicksilver project never really ran to the course Ken had been setting out, and therefore I found I had little need of the drawings during the time I was working with him.

As an interesting aside, Ken rang me at one stage after 2001 to ask if I would donate my set to the BBP. I replied that I would be happy to do so. I was somewhat surprised to receive a subsequent phone call from him asking where my set was. Surprised because he held both sets. If I remember right, he couldn't locate either set - neither mine nor his. Ken often got into a muddle like this and it was most frustrating for both of us.

In fairness, this may well have been the time after Ken's business went belly-up, and things will likely have been moved away from the airport by then and it may well have been very difficult to find where things were.

From what I understand, it was quite a long time before the BBP actually got a meaningful set of drawings and related documents from Ken, and even then I wonder if it was ever the fully comprehensive set that we had originally copied.

As I say, frustrating and perplexing are the best words I could apply.

I do have a digital copy of a great deal of the archive, obtained subsequently, but I wouldn’t be able to dig deep enough to find it at present, as we long-since ceased to have need of data relating to K7 and now focus totally on the new boat and not the old one. The old archive stuff is therefore buried deep, along with assorted windtunnel models and other paraphernalia.

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Post by Renegadenemo » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:48 pm

We have a fairly comprehensive set of drawings if you want to build a 1954 version. Not much of it would be useful these days, though. Much would be worth a re-design.
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Post by f1steveuk » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:58 pm

Having spent hours creating a file and recovery system for Ken's stuff, as Nigel say's, the problems with Ken's business (I seem to recall either created by, or made worse by 9/11), meant the archive was moved, hurriedly, to the hanger next to A&G, next to Nigel's Buccaneer. This hanger contained the Fireball sailing boat, Jetstar 1, the spare diff boxes for CN7 amongst other treasures. As I witnessed Ken's slow and painful to watch decline, he did indeed become confused and forgetful. Indeed on one trip, Tony James and I traveled all the way down to Bournemouth at Ken's request, and he didn't turn up. After a quick call, he was driven down, and merely said hello, and didn't recall asking us to go, nor what it was about. It was at this time I made initial enquiries into a permanent home for the contents of the hanger, and eventually, the drawings and calc's as well as Ken's famous brown filing boxes were taken to Beaulieu by Mike Varndell. My system was discarded, and so, I have no idea what went, but I'd suggest a lot ifnot all of the copies must have gone there.
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Post by quicksilver-wsr » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:35 pm

I hope some of the archive stuff was what made its way to the BBP, Steve, before Beaulieu swallowed it up.

With the Bucc, long before Ken's business went bust it had gone over to European Aviation's hangar on the other side of the airport. It was only at Ken's for a few weeks - right after we purchased it, late 1998 - because Ken's boys wished it moved at the soonest opportunity, as it was a big beast that was getting in the way of the general-aviation activities on their apron that were, after all, their bread-and-butter.

Can't say I blame them at all for that.

At one point someone - not one of us - pushed it onto the grass at the edge of the apron, to make more space. Of course, it sank into the earth. Not so clever. But we got it out okay.

For the record - purely to stop anyone putting two and two together and making five - the Bucc never at any time went into the Blister Hangar that the Quicksilver project was renting from Ken's business. It just wouldn't have fitted in there. It was too big, any way you wanted to do it, even wings folded.

Yes, it was such a pity the way things worked out for Ken - what with the Quicksilver situation and then his business being gradually forced to the wall by several factors, of which 9/11 was certainly one, although not the only one. If I had that time over I would have handled my side of it a lot more carefully. If I'm honest, I wanted to punish the old man a bit.

There was bitterness, both ways, about the whole thing. But it's done now.

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Post by rob565uk » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:58 pm

Your recollections are candid and clearly heartfelt Nigel, but as you say - what's done is done. Heaven knows, I wish I could undo many things I have done, in common with us all. I guess the point is to look back at the past but not stare - just recognise, acknowledge and learn from mistakes.

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Post by quicksilver-wsr » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:17 pm

Yup - definitely older and wiser now.

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Post by f1steveuk » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:24 pm

I pretty certain the BBP project got all it's stuff before Mike took the archive to Beaulieu, as I warned him, once stuff goes in there, like most museums, it suddenly becomes theirs, and access becomes imposible.

Now as for the diff boxes and the bit of rudder that had been trimmed off etc, all vanished........................
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Post by quicksilver-wsr » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:45 pm

My heart sinks whenever I hear of any archive stuff going in there.

As far as the vast majority of the outside world goes, it's "Bye-bye, forever" :(

One day, people will wise-up.

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Re: Quicksilver

Post by Gareth Hayes » Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:00 pm

It's quite interesting having a look around Quicksilver's website. There's certain similarities between the design & that of K7. But at the same time, Quicksilver just doesn't have the same elegance that K7 has. But by the sounds of things Quicksilver is purely a speed machine, looks & elegance come a very distant second here.

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