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Ernie Lazenby

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Post by Ernie Lazenby » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:18 pm

jonwrightk7 wrote:hi bill i met you at the ken warby dinner at torver on oct 20th 2007. spent the night before in the black bull with novie, paul and john from the srg. after sitting there over a pint of bluebird bitter for about ten minutes, trying to explain to the better half why i had just become a dribbling idiot i was kindly introduced to ken by john from the srg. (must have been the BBP polo shirt that did it!) mr warby then went on to say that "mr mcknight was making a career of going after the WWSR but would never do it" (probably not an exact quote so call off the lawers!) not a * bird has been posted on the site since last summer when they cut ken norris's frame in half! enough said me thinks

Nigel rang me about 15 months ago and went to great lengths to tell me how much the project had cost him personally and we had a good long chat. I was impressed with his sincere desire to see the project through and I dont doubt his honest intention to do his very best to see that happen. That said its clear the way the project has gone does not instill in Mr Average a firm belief that it will ever see the water and those who really understand these things lost interest some time ago. Hopefull it will happen but I also believe K7 is likely to see water long before any Quicksilver does.

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Post by jonwrightk7 » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:16 am

hi ernie, dont get me wrong, i really wish nigel all the best. it just seems to me that he has put toomuch effort into fundraising dinners and looking after his sponsors. a bit more of a "lets spend the money where its needed" approach might have been better. mind what do i know of his troubles! i still wish him the best of luck though. ps GTK7 looks great!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Ernie Lazenby » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:25 am

No problem jon I think we are of the same mind. I have declined three invitations to be the personal guest ,at no cost to me, of a well known individual at Nigels dinners. I have nothing against a free meal and good crack its just I felt the money could be better spent getting the boat sorted out and thus they served no purpose in furthering the project. Just me and my silly principles costing me a good meal. Elaine keeps reminding me that principles dont put food on the table or pay the bills and not having any gets you a well paid job as an MP! :lol:

Thanks for the comment re the GT- Its causing me some concern about how to get it to the big show in South Shields. My son who is now the owner has work commitments on Saturday and Sundays is his day to spend quality time with his 2 yr old son. I cannot get that model plus a big S lo Mo, Big Budweiser, Big Miss England 11, big Spirit of Australia ,Crusader and others into one of Fords 'focused' creations. Its eaither the big GT on its own or all the rest and no K7.

Not sure what the public would want to see the most.

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Re: Quicksilver

Post by Mike Bull » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:00 am

To be honest Ernie, the answer to that is obvious- K7! Particularly as you will almost be on the real K7's temporary home turf, and Joe public would love to realise that she was just up the road, and what have you. It's a real chance to plug the project locally, I think. (As if it needs it, but all publicity, etc...)

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Post by Ernie Lazenby » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:32 am

I agree Mike and thats what is likely to happen. If I shove and push I think I can get K7 into the back of my Focus with the back seats down and I may just get either Bud or Slo Mo along side with care. Probably Slo Mo because as you know that was the seminal hydro. With care I could get another in the front stood up on its end in the passenger side footwell. I will do my best.

BTW If and when a completed QS appears on the water I may build a big GT working model of it

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Post by klingon » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:46 pm

[quote="Ernie Lazenby"]I agree Mike and thats what is likely to happen. If I shove and push I think I can get K7 into the back of my Focus with the back seats down and I may just get either Bud or Slo Mo along side with care. Probably Slo Mo because as you know that was the seminal hydro. With care I could get another in the front stood up on its end in the passenger side footwell. I will do my best.

BTW If and when a completed QS appears on the water I may build a big GT working model of it
See If you can build a 1:1 scale model of it and we'll all have fun-I got a spare Derwent hanging around!
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Re: Quicksilver

Post by Mike Bull » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:48 pm

Went looking for any recent(!) news on Quicksilver and found the main site to be down at the moment. Did however find this online, which has more details about the actual 'craft' than Nige's site has had in years-

http://machinedesign.com/article/an-upd ... ilver-0316

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Re: Quicksilver

Post by jonwrightk7 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:46 pm

great link mike, seems to me that its an exercise in technology. the more tech you put into it, the more can go wrong! the bloodhound project is very tech based but when your aiming for mach 1.4 then this has to be the case. have to question the wisdom of putting the pilots cockpit in one of the sponsons! surely the occilatory loadings on the pilot would be horrendous in anything other than mirror smooth water!?
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Post by KW Mitchell » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:53 pm

And equally, John, I cannot go with the notion of rejecting a horizontal stabiliser on the fin. Expert aerodynamicists who were involved with K7, Stollery, Fink and Norris knew that it would have prevented the fatal pitch-up but the latter rejected it not on the basis of good aerodynamic design, but the rules then pertaining to record breaking.

Examining the current record holder Warby's Spirit of Australia, shows the Fink designed stabiliser on the fin. It appears to have 2-3 deg's positive incidence producing lift at the stern and resultant download on the bows. These loads being aerodynamically driven, progressively increase with speed. This produces unconditional stability in pitch.

Although I am not familiar with the detailed design of Quicksilver, I am at a loss to understand the wind tunnel results which would contraindicate the use of such an airfoil ---------.
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Re: Quicksilver

Post by Mike Bull » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:49 pm

As an aside, doesn't Ken's boat look plain without the huge 'SPEEDO' branding on it?

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