Blue Bird K4

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Re: Blue Bird K4

Post by Jordangbr » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:11 pm

That does sound lovely and growly.
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Re: Blue Bird K4

Post by f1steveuk » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:34 pm

Sorry, been reading through the thread before I joined in!

K4, I had nearly all the drawings of her at one time, not vastly different to K3 to be honest in general construction. I worked with Doug Nye, Hothouse Models and Jerry Judah on replica for Goodwood, now at Holker, and that was from those very drawings.

The good thing with K4 over K3 is that it will go around corners, but there are loads of really nice Ventnor hulls around that are real and historic, so the mileage in a full on reproduction, and at what cost is a hard one to justify.

I have done a potted history of Blue Ace in the Crusader book, as it was thee very hull Railton borrowed to demonstrate the principle to Malcolm Campbell, and had nearly equaled his then WWSR in 1940, with a tiny engine, right on Vospers doorstep!

There are four R types in the world, and not one complete one. No tool kit (not the biggest problem), and the engines that exist are way past hours (and that includes running on dyno's). Meteor, nah, Griffin, same dimensions, sameish capacity, would be better replacement (the prototype Griffin was R41 severely altered), so a bit more heritage too.

Crusader was a poor design!!!!!??? No, it was a very very good design (nearly had a flat power resistance curve), it was just poorly executed, and probably beyond the materials and construction techniques of the time. I can say very little, but there is no point building a new Crusader, especially as there was a new Crusader designed after September 1952. All in the book, publishing date soon I hope!!
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Re: Blue Bird K4

Post by Mike Bull » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:57 pm

f1steveuk wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:34 pm
I can say very little, but there is no point building a new Crusader
That implies that someone else already is then!? :geek:
f1steveuk wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:34 pm
and probably beyond the materials and construction techniques of the time.
What, with (as an example) the Vulcan having its first flight just a month before Cobb died?!

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Re: Blue Bird K4

Post by Black Knight » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:12 pm

I'd like to see a Miss England II replicated with twin Griffons

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Re: Blue Bird K4

Post by Renegadenemo » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:33 am

I'd like to see a Miss England II replicated with twin Griffons
Wasn't it salvaged? Where is it now?
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Re: Blue Bird K4

Post by Ernie Lazenby » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:35 pm

Miss England 11 was indeed salvaged, rebuilt and modified. Bottom sheathed in 1/16 stainless steel. In 1931 Kaye Don piloted the boat to a new world record of 103.49mph, three months later he raised it to 110.2mph. Sorry I have forgotten what happened to the boat after that. I have a set of press photographs taken on the day showing the accident on Windermere. Various shots of it travelling down the lake then the crash. I have a detailed set of drawings showing the construction of the boat. I think the same drawings Fred Harris used to produce models. I made a working model using Fred's moulds. His models were for static display. Regretfully I sold the model at a time I was not well.(as a working model it was unique)
BTW It was a single step hydroplane.

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Re: Blue Bird K4

Post by Renegadenemo » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:47 pm

I'm reliably informed that she was destroyed by bombing in WWII whilst in storage.
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Re: Blue Bird K4

Post by ted.walsh » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:54 am

:roll: you've rebuilt worse...... :D

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Re: Blue Bird K4

Post by Renegadenemo » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:15 am

Give us the wrecked bits and we'll piece her back together.

I'd love to run a new project to recreate one of those long lost boats to the last nut and bolt but I reckon I've worn the guys and girls into the ground with the big blue one. Once is enough, it seems, and that's fair. We've given K7 our all for many years and at the end of the day how many once in a lifetime, amazing and totally fulfilling projects is enough for one lifetime?
Just need Coniston to get sorted and we can tick the last of the boxes lined up for us in 2002 and the whole team can retire in the knowledge that they did an incredible thing.
After Dumbelyung, Lake Mead and wherever else, of course... :D
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Re: Blue Bird K4

Post by ted.walsh » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:20 am

you could always attempt a 2 seat BBO replica. we could all go for a ride then? ;)

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