Donald Campbell's restored Bluebird in museum home row

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Re: Donald Campbell's restored Bluebird in museum home row

Post by Mike Bull » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:04 am

Doh, indeed. They own what they were gifted, we own that which has been inextricably added since. And we've been telling them the same for years.
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I was watching the Sky News Loch Fad documentary again, the other day. Interesting to hear Bill Smith say that Coniston has had a decade to get ready for Bluebird K7's return. In fact it's the other way round. The Bluebird Wing of the Ruskin Museum was opened in 2008, and Coniston has been patiently waiting a decade for Bill Smith to complete the reconstruction of the boat and return it there.
A decade to get ready for the event on the water, and all that goes with that. Doh!

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Post by Richie » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:10 am

JETT ! Where you been !?!? We missed you !


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Post by Richie » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:50 pm

Well, my wife has been asking the museum for
Answers with regards to the “decommissioning” side of things, she may not be able to make it to the July event next year due to work commitments wanting to know that this wasn’t the last chance she would get to see the boat run, I have tried to reassure her that there will be other events but she doesn’t have my optimism !


Alas she has not had any replies for either the museum or the author of the new bluebird Coniston web page.

Shame.

I asked her what did she expect asking a difficult question which the museum or author won’t want to answer on paper 😂😂😂

All very embarrassing really 🤔

Maybe her surname has been marked as bad.


I would invite folk interested in the clarity of the decommissioning statement to contact the Ruskin or the Bluebird Coniston Page for answers, as they have made it a public statement they are obliged to add clarity on the subject....
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Post by Renegadenemo » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:55 am

Well, my wife has been asking the museum for
Answers with regards to the “decommissioning” side of things
The decommissioning thing was a knee-jerk reaction to a misleading press release. The original release saying that we'd be running the boat in July was passed over my desk before it went live - except on that occasion it didn't go live because word got out prematurely. But the original release read:-

Following the trials, Bluebird will go into her permanent home, the Bluebird Wing of the Ruskin Museum, in the heart of the village where Donald Campbell is buried and where this beautiful, historic boat can be admired at close quarters.

I first of all asked how long Donald had been buried in the museum then pointed out that Bluebird would not be going straight to the museum and to say otherwise was misleading and that if the release wasn't changed I would go on the record to discount it.
At this point I was invited to 'see the bigger picture', as one day the boat would go into the museum so it didn't need spelling out. First of all, I ought to have been incensed at someone telling me to see the bigger picture and would have been but for the fact that individual who suggested it is thick as mince and knew no better and secondly, I made it clear that in a press release such things must be spelt out or people get the wrong idea and that idea soon becomes gospel. Off went our non-media-savvy, wannabe press-officer only to come back back with 'decommissioning', which was just as misleading and inaccurate but by now the story had broken and there's no use issuing a release about a story that by this time was two days old. That ought to have been that.

But what happened next was that the same words cropped up, cut and pasted, into various documents and lo and behold - suddenly it's gospel.
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Post by Richie » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:34 am

I have received messages upon messages upon messages asking “what the hell is going on” people are angry, very angry indeed.

I have tried to seek clarity from the museum and from the author of the Bluebird Coniston Page. All my requests have gone without response, personally speaking, for me, this speaks volumes with regards to the intentions of the museum and the BEWG.

The effect in my own opinion is that the rickety bridge which has been constructed between the BBP and them is being burned from their end at a time when efforts should be made to work together....as you know I was a big advocate of the boat running on Coniston.
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Re: Donald Campbell's restored Bluebird in museum home row

Post by Mike Bull » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:09 am

Richie wrote:
Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:34 am
I have tried to seek clarity from the museum and from the author of the Bluebird Coniston Page. All my requests have gone without response
Now now Rich, you know they've been busy every day with far more important matters-

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Re: Donald Campbell's restored Bluebird in museum home row

Post by JfromJAGs » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:26 pm

I don't understand why a group of people steps forward and anounces dates for the runs of K7 on Coniston Water when nothing seams to be clear, neither with those who will do the runs nor with those who need to give permissions. What's the purpose behind this? I don't get it.

Anyway, I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Hope to see K7 roar somewhere in 2019.

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Post by Renegadenemo » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:39 pm

I don't understand why a group of people steps forward and anounces dates for the runs of K7 on Coniston Water when nothing seams to be clear, neither with those who will do the runs nor with those who need to give permissions. What's the purpose behind this? I don't get it.
They were told for a decade to get moving with plans for Bluebird to run on Coniston and did nothing. They were told three years ago that if they didn't get a move on we would end up ahead of them and it was imperative that they cracked on with all possible haste - they did nothing. We told them a year ahead of Bute that we were gong there - they didn't involve themselves in the crew training, which would have provided both valuable lessons, badly needed experience and an opportunity to promote the village and the lake. Then it took the LDNPA an inordinate length of time to realise that we weren't coming when the kids were in school and therefore proposing dates that would work took longer than it should have.

So what we are seeing here is a panic reaction to public opinion based on a realisation far too late that BBP is actually delivering what it said it would deliver. Yes, there is some wibble about having built a museum but this has,

a. nothing to do with running the boat and,
b. is mostly good fortune due to there being some European money left over from the 2001 foot & mouth outbreak.

Now the BEWG (Bluebird Event Working Group) is frantically trying to organise an even for next July when no permission to run is even anywhere in sight and that's without being able to host and properly manage such an event, and this set against a background of the LDNPA being obliged to cover its bureaucratic backside in many layers of armour. It's madness! All of this should have been done years ago. I did suggest organising it for 2020 and was asked, 'what is my problem?'

And I will say this once again, for a very simple reason, which is that I will trot out every instance of me saying it in plenty of time should the need arise.

Unless a deal is done for future running of the boat and access to all our hard work for our own purposes is signed off on an ongoing basis for part of the year we will not be going to Coniston.

I have an awful feeling that this will go into the same bracket as, we're not coming when the kids are in school, and the realisation that we mean it will dawn either too late or when there's only time to panic over it.
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Re: Donald Campbell's restored Bluebird in museum home row

Post by Jett » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:49 pm

Interesting, when I clicked on the original poster of this thread. mark-f, back came the message that he 'no longer exists'. I tried to pm him, and back came the same message. I then tried the same with that excellent poster of yore, Ernie Lazenby. Same result. It's presumably pure coincidence of course, that they have both asked 'difficult' questions and been critical of BBP .

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Post by Mike Bull » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:02 pm

For the record, both members messaged via the forum admin contact and asked to have their accounts deactivated.

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