Coniston - Spiritual Home?

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Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Renegadenemo » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:06 am

I keep hearing this, Coniston - spiritual home thing and I'm sorry, I just don't buy it. I mean, why not Ullswater where she set her first record, or Dumbelyung where she set her last?

Both worthy contenders, so why do people keep harping on about the one place where it all went wrong? Her darkest hour...

Coniston water is a creepy, foreboding place that doesn't seem to want her back on so many levels. So, at the risk of much controversy (like I give a flying fling at a rolling pastry) may I suggest that her new spiritual home be the Isle of Bute onto which she was so warmly welcomed along with her crew and on which, for the first time in her history of new roll-outs, she performed impeccably and not as the moody old bitch seen previously.
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Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by midlife » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:09 am

It’s a fantastic place with fantastic people so why not Bute[.]
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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Mike Bull » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:44 am

So much wrapped up in just one word, isn't there?

'Coniston'.

Is that the Coniston where the boat ran the most in her first life?

The Coniston where said boat crashed and instantly absorbed a man into legend? Does that alone make it the 'spiritual home' and thou shalt not argue?

The Coniston that eventually gave the boat back up, a bruised but not beaten old thing that still had tons of life in it?

The Coniston that also yielded the remains of the pilot, so that his family could bury him decently?

The Coniston that sits on its behind 'in the comfort of an armchair' and expects the world to come to it with no effort of their own so they can make a tickle from it?

The Coniston that has a constant 'can't-do' attitude?

The Coniston that is ruddy deep should anything go awry again?

It just goes on and on.

I think personally that K7 and Donald Campbell, while of course forever linked, have slightly shifted in relation to each other. The most emotional part of Bute for me by far was when the boat first floated off the cradle, and sat at her mooring for an hour in the sunshine without an apparent care in the world; it was as if she was saying 'Ok, yes, I'm back, what's the fuss? Crash? What crash?'. We couldn't get Donald back, but the boat, his boat, was. I actually voiced this to Gina, who agreed.

Bute was incredible- I'm back at work now and it's still difficult to take in just what happened to us, around us, because of us, and because of the amazing folk on the island, at every level. It's boggling. It will forever be where the boat woke up again. The start of something. But in my opinion, if Bluebird has any spiritual home now, it's on water; afloat and alive and entertaining people and most importantly just going to show that when the British put their minds to it...
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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by VdGGfan » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:17 am

Hear hear!
I was there at the relaunch and the emotion was tangible.
This island was buzzing for a fortnight at a time we really needed some cheering up.
I'm sure the people here would be happy to make Bluebird and the team honorary Brandanes (if such a title existed).
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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Engine 711 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:18 am

Ullswater - still under the LDNPA surely - so similar probs to 'C'. Are there any speed restrictions already in place, do we know....? Believe DMC ultimately didn't like it because of its shape, with a dog leg - but not such a prob if not intending to run really fast.

Dumbleyung - perhaps a tad far....?

'C' (IMHO) needs to put in a bit more effort, if it want to be taken seriously. And that had better be soon. I certainly would not blame the BBP for looking elsewhere. Just leaves the not insignificant matter of the Ruskin Museum, who have build/had built the K7 'Garage'. Hmmm.

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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Ernie Lazenby » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:35 am

Coniston- The final resting place of a true british hero.
Coniston - The lake where the true british heros father, another true british, hero broke a world record.
Coniston- Forever associated with the Campbell record breaking dynasty.
Coniston- The place where Donald Campbell chose to try and break the 300 mph barrier costing him his life.
Coniston- In a national park, an area decreed a place of special scientific interest and thus subject to proper care controlled by people tasked with a difficult job..

DC said if there was an accident Donald stays with the boat- the debate about it being brought up from the depths is gone, past history but there's nothing to stop his boat, and it was his boat ableit it is only now part of his original boat, stopping with him in Coniston.

The people at Loch Fad obviously did a fantastic job for the team but it was a symbiotic relationship- Business in the area no doubt benefited from increased trade and the Project got all the facilities it needed. Hard to see a down side but that does not make the area associated with the boat by history. Creating new history does not obliterate many years of old history.

Its perhaps regrettable that the downside to Coniston were not voiced before the Ruskin Annex was built at considerable expense.

Those in position of authority often have to make difficult decisions notwithstanding a populist view of the crowd or indeed a very vocal group of well intentioned individuals. Quite often people in authority are sat on the horns of a dilemma without the wisdom of Solomon to help make difficult decisions. In my working life I have been to that place and its not comfortable.

People who want a particular course of action taken quite often do not see the bigger picture or if they do choose to ignore it, that's life nothing unusual. Perhaps one of the downsides of human nature.

Looking in from the outside we have arrived at a situation where one group of people who desire to move forward in a particular way, the project, are trying to deal with another group of people who have both legal and moral obligations arising from the positions they hold. That is always a recipe for stagnation, recrimination and negativity. One side has legal obligations while the other does not.

This all brings us back to the question that remains unanswered- What does the legal owner/s of K7 want to happen to her.

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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Sam_68 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:45 am

There's also the small matter of Broken promises, not that that seems to concern anybody associated with BBP, any more:

"... any contribution will be used in its entirety to ensure the successful completion of this project and the return of Donald Campbell's iconic boat to her spiritual home in Coniston, Cumbria, England."

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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Mike Bull » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:46 am

Ernie Lazenby wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:35 am
ableit it is only now part of his original boat
I'm going to take exception to that- she's far more than just 'part' of the original boat.
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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Mike Bull » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:51 am

Sam_68 wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:45 am
There's also the small matter of Broken promises, not that that seems to concern anybody associated with BBP, any more:

"... any contribution will be used in its entirety to ensure the successful completion of this project and the return of Donald Campbell's iconic boat to her spiritual home in Coniston, Cumbria, England."
...which can still happen IF the 'authorities' over there get off their backsides and facilitate an event. So, no 'broken promise' there.
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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Ernie Lazenby » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:57 am

Mike Bull wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:46 am
Ernie Lazenby wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:35 am
ableit it is only now part of his original boat
I'm going to take exception to that- she's far more than just 'part' of the original boat.
Mike sorry but I am factually correct, I said part of the original boat and that is a fact. New engine, new sponsons and much more. Not being critical at all. Its not the 'whole' original boat. Please dont be so sensitive to my original post with I think is measured and thoughtfull.

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