Coniston - Spiritual Home?

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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Sam_68 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:14 pm

Renegadenemo wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:04 pm
...don't for a moment think that there was ever any promise to hand over all our hard work without strings attached because there never was.
Then why did you publish the statement that I linked above, which is still there for all to see, on your website?

Can you comment on Ernie's assertion that actual, legal ownership of the boat was handed by the CFHT to the Ruskin.

Ownership is usually quite straightforward: either you own something, or you don't.

If K7's ownership was, or is, disputed, surely that is something that you had a moral, if not legal, obligation to make clear to prospective donors to the project?

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Post by Ernie Lazenby » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:17 pm

Bill please just put a stop to all this by answering the question fundamental to this and other threads. Surely you of all people must know;

Who in law, that is has 'legal title', owns K7 Bluebird? Is it the Ruskin Museum Trust, The Campbell family heritage trust, the Bluebird project or Ms Campbell.

Until that is dealt with the hamster keeps the wheel turning.

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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by conistoncollie » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:19 pm

Then why did you publish the statement that I linked above, which is still there for all to see, on your website?
to ensure the successful completion of this project and the return of Donald Campbell’s iconic boat to her spiritual home in Coniston, Cumbria, England.
I keep hearing this, Coniston - spiritual home thing and I'm sorry, I just don't buy it.
Fair question

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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Ernie Lazenby » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:20 pm

Bill said 'Then a certain Type III attempted to alter the donation agreement for his own ends'

Therein are two useful pieces of information, (I) there was a donation agreement originally. (2)the identity of the type111 person thus becomes clear.

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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by SteveHunt » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:38 pm

"Until that is dealt with the hamster keeps the wheel turning."

more like the hamster wheel keeps on being spun by someone who plainly has not an awful lot left constructively to do with his time, bar constantly needling those who have made more positive contributions to this piece of British history than he has.

Dont you ever give it a rest, Ernie? What skin do you have in the game exactly, for you to be so constantly, forensically interested in this one factor that you personally have nothing to do with?

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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Ernie Lazenby » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:55 pm

English dictionary definition- 'Spiritual home' 'a place where you feel you belong, although you were not born there, because you have a lot in common with the people, the culture, and the way of life'

Re: Question Bill asked originally. In respect of a piece of property the expression is misused. Where I live now is my 'spiritual home', yes I was born in smoggy land, I cant help that :lol: , but that was over 70 years ago. In its relatively short life did K7 really ever have a 'home' ?

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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Renegadenemo » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:56 pm

Then why did you publish the statement that I linked above, which is still there for all to see, on your website?
to ensure the successful completion of this project and the return of Donald Campbell’s iconic boat to her spiritual home in Coniston, Cumbria, England.
I keep hearing this, Coniston - spiritual home thing and I'm sorry, I just don't buy it.
Fair question
Back in the day we had romantic notions of a joint effort but, with regret, we have to say that Coniston has failed completely to engage with the project over the past 10 years or so and as one commentator said on Bute - 'you should invite them up here to see what they could have won'. That pretty much sums it up. And it's an awful lot easier to say, put it in the museum, than it is to say, put it in the museum with an ongoing maintenance, conservation and anti-det contract in place, but that's what it should have read.

Bill please just put a stop to all this by answering the question fundamental to this and other threads. Surely you of all people must know;
Surely no one imagines I have, or indeed there even exists, a definitive answer to that one? Too many variables.

As we've said for the longest time, when Coniston and the museum and the LDNPA sort themselves out we'll be there with bells on but until they do we'll just keep on delivering a project with the greatest public benefit.
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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by sheppane » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:05 pm

Two sentiments with which I most heartily agree:

''As we've said for the longest time, when Coniston and the museum and the LDNPA sort themselves out we'll be there with bells on but until they do we'll just keep on delivering a project with the greatest public benefit''.
Mike Bull wrote:
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...and with that, can we please all give this a rest for a while? Thanks!
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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Healey nut » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:06 am

Amen to that !!!!!
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Re: Coniston - Spiritual Home?

Post by Richie » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:46 am

And with that all said, there remains only one final question !

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